Got something cheaper three drops of palmolive oxy dish detergent cleans and shines dishes better than any other and u dont get all the suds with this low amount

Have you tried this with a citric acid variation?  Just wondering regarding a comparison since my healthfood store gives me stink-eye whenever I ask them to stock citric acid.  I can't remember that exact recipe, but I think it was borax and citric acid...ah...probably something else pretty important...I use washing soda and borax in the washer and I use vinegar for fab soft--just a bit, no eau de ketchup or anything. 

Anyway, let me know how it goes.

leslie